lowercase l with tail

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Posted on August 29, 2020

Ɩ is used in West African language although is overall less frequent.If "0196 capital Latin iota Ɩ" looks like a sans-serif lower case Latin L, it is just another example for the bad design of Noto regarding ambiguity.Is there a reason why capital I and lowercase l in Noto Sans and Noto Sans CJK differ?In Noto Sans, capital I has horizontal lines, in Noto Sans CJK it does not.I feel they each are imperfect, inconsistent with each other and as the issue requester has suggested, they should better disambiguate the letter-forms for better accessibility and to help those with reading disabilities.In Noto Sans, capital I has horizontal lines, in Noto Sans CJK it does not.that would mean in CJK ambiguous*, solution: change in CJK to the form in LGC (Latin Greek Cyrillic)In Noto Sans, lowercase l has no tail, in Noto Sans CJK it does.that would mean in LGC ambiguous*, solution: change in LGC to the form in CJKNoto Sans and Noto Sans CJK are completely unrelated designs.Noto Sans CJK is a friendly fork of Source Han Sans, developed entirely by Adobe, and its non-CJK glyphs are from Source Sans Pro by Paul Hunt.Noto Sans is an evolution of Open Sans and Droid Sans, made at Monotype by Steve Matteson.I have not yet proposed, but probably should, a new OT standardized feature “Legible forms” that would allow designers add disambiguated glyph forms to fonts in a disambiguated manner. Admittedly, those users have refrained from verbal abuse when they requested the addition.Sorry for the hate you are getting. Ɩ is used in West African language although is overall less frequent.The West African language you mention is spoken by a mere 1 million people and hence irrelevant to this greater issue too.Those are extremely rare edge cases and irrelevant the the overwhelming majority of the world's population using standard Latin script, including the lingua franca you are using to communicate now.Just so you know, l with a tail would look like 0196 capital Latin iota Ɩ. If you want Noto to be the ultimate clear UI font then there should be absolutely no room for ambiguity. I recently added “legible” forms of I and l to Lato as a stylistic set, upon request from some users. I'll refer to them as the Illogical Illuminati." Your testing assumption would work if the only font the average person ever viewed was Noto Sans or if all other fonts rendered I and l in the same consistent way, but this is never going to be the case.For example, other beautiful-but-flawed fonts like Source Sans Pro and DIN do the opposite to Noto and render the I as a vertical bar but have a tail on the l -- these are also bad designs because the average person will not know the details of the exact font they are viewing at any particular time. Admittedly, those users have refrained from verbal abuse when they requested the addition.Admittedly, those users have refrained from verbal abuse when they requested the addition.Noto Sans and Noto Sans CJK are completely unrelated designs.Then it is a bug that they are shared as if they were not, e.g. Typeface design seems like a weird hill for people to die on. Meanwhile, adding the little tail to the bottom of a lower case l is a serif. If you want to create the ultimate clear and functional font then please also add a small tail to the l (lowercase L).I saw no confusion (the closest were Roboto's but they were still distinct).Forget that I mentioned the | or | vertical bars as that was only one tiny outlying example - the real problem is with l and I. The uppercase letter J — In Germany, this letter is often written with a long stroke to the left at the top. The lowercase "q" is usually seen as a lowercase "o" or "c" with a descender (i.e., downward vertical tail) extending from the right side of the bowl, with or without a swash (i.e., flourish), or even a reversed lowercase p. The "q"'s descender is usually typed without a swash due to the major style difference typically seen between the descenders of the "g" (a loop) and "q" (vertical).

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