Nov. It appears that many Rolling Blocks made in 1873 and up may well have spent considerable time either in storage at Remington or a hardware store etc.
It was made in a variety of calibers, both rimfire and centerfire, including the 12.17x42 mm rimfire, 12.17x44 mm rimfire and 12.17x44 mm rimmed centerfire Swedish and Norwegian cartridges,.43 Spanish,. When the stamp for the side patents came out Remington no longer used the 1874 stamp on the sporters.
Hello all -- I have a Rolling Block that my dad used to use as a wall-hangar ornament. The easiest was to identify a Number 5 action without removing and measuring the barrel shank, is to look for the receiver radial relief cuts on either side of front of the breechblock. Some of these rifles are creedmoor rifles that we know were used in the 1874 matches. That is Five ( 5 ) years earlier then the plaque.
For now I'm just happy I know more about it.
It was either at a gun show or an auction. Yep ...very true and so many older guns have gone this route and have simply vanished from the scene. I have not done a chamber cast. There is very little stamped on the rifle anywhere.
We may never know. octagon barrel standard with round barrels available late in the series, smooth bore barrel was introduced approx.
It affected both Europe and the USA.
There is no bayonet lug on this one. I can post up some pics of the barrel band(s) tonight, but I do believe they are screw-retained by a screw entering from the LHS of the barrel.
A generic inscription and without a last name almost impossible to track down.
The top of the U should point to the muzzle and is of course positioned on the right side of the barrel.
Rolling Block I believe that the numbers stamped into the upper and lower tangs represent "batch" numbers for frame production, and not serial numbers. If you would like a shooter, plenty of .45-70 RB reproductions are on the market;prices not bad as well.
Lower tangs were production marked from 1 to 10,000 and then the numbering sequence was repeated.
As I remember, it was a nice rifle. 1911, blue finish with case hardened frame, solid frame initially followed by takedown in 2 different types (lever release introduced approx.
The culprit the financial " Panic of 1873" which didn't end until 1879.
Would any other pictures be helpful?My pleasure, happy to be of any help. Thanks so much.Turns out that (a) the barrel bands are secured at the joint under the barrel where they "bend" together, and (b) the squares on the barrel bands are actually "U"s as close as I can tell.Thank you for the photos...I kind of thought there were actually "U's" on the bands, but no I still stick with my thoughts on this one....condition wise it still looks similar to those in the Uruguayan fort museum, of course the numbers are different.Thanks, and that's the most help and certainty that I could expect.
rimfire, 22 1/2 in.
The barrel, the tang and the forearm snabble all have the same serial number.
Occasionally one gets a little information as to a manufacturing year. I'll see if I can get a really clear pic of the patent stamp on the tang also. The tang numbers had no relationship to year of production. Your 1400 ser.
NO.
Simply enjoy your rifle as it is.....GeorgeYea, makes it a tough decision.
The sporting rifles carried receiver and barrel serial numbers, but not the military models. If you could show a picture of the plaque someone might have some knowledge of the persons involved. On each of the barrel bands on the right hand side there is a small square stamped. I have no intention to sell it, but is it particularly valuable? EdI'm no expert but I find it hard to believe that a Rolling Block with a Silver Presentation Plaque was made in 1874 when it has a plaque is dated 1879. Also the butt plate should be numbered the same.
EdIll try amd post a pic tomorrow. We know of several low 3000 rifles with 1874 patent dates.
Nov. It appears that many Rolling Blocks made in 1873 and up may well have spent considerable time either in storage at Remington or a hardware store etc.
It was made in a variety of calibers, both rimfire and centerfire, including the 12.17x42 mm rimfire, 12.17x44 mm rimfire and 12.17x44 mm rimmed centerfire Swedish and Norwegian cartridges,.43 Spanish,. When the stamp for the side patents came out Remington no longer used the 1874 stamp on the sporters.
Hello all -- I have a Rolling Block that my dad used to use as a wall-hangar ornament. The easiest was to identify a Number 5 action without removing and measuring the barrel shank, is to look for the receiver radial relief cuts on either side of front of the breechblock. Some of these rifles are creedmoor rifles that we know were used in the 1874 matches. That is Five ( 5 ) years earlier then the plaque.
For now I'm just happy I know more about it.
It was either at a gun show or an auction. Yep ...very true and so many older guns have gone this route and have simply vanished from the scene. I have not done a chamber cast. There is very little stamped on the rifle anywhere.
We may never know. octagon barrel standard with round barrels available late in the series, smooth bore barrel was introduced approx.
It affected both Europe and the USA.
There is no bayonet lug on this one. I can post up some pics of the barrel band(s) tonight, but I do believe they are screw-retained by a screw entering from the LHS of the barrel.
A generic inscription and without a last name almost impossible to track down.
The top of the U should point to the muzzle and is of course positioned on the right side of the barrel.
Rolling Block I believe that the numbers stamped into the upper and lower tangs represent "batch" numbers for frame production, and not serial numbers. If you would like a shooter, plenty of .45-70 RB reproductions are on the market;prices not bad as well.
Lower tangs were production marked from 1 to 10,000 and then the numbering sequence was repeated.
As I remember, it was a nice rifle. 1911, blue finish with case hardened frame, solid frame initially followed by takedown in 2 different types (lever release introduced approx.
The culprit the financial " Panic of 1873" which didn't end until 1879.
Would any other pictures be helpful?My pleasure, happy to be of any help. Thanks so much.Turns out that (a) the barrel bands are secured at the joint under the barrel where they "bend" together, and (b) the squares on the barrel bands are actually "U"s as close as I can tell.Thank you for the photos...I kind of thought there were actually "U's" on the bands, but no I still stick with my thoughts on this one....condition wise it still looks similar to those in the Uruguayan fort museum, of course the numbers are different.Thanks, and that's the most help and certainty that I could expect.
rimfire, 22 1/2 in.
The barrel, the tang and the forearm snabble all have the same serial number.
Occasionally one gets a little information as to a manufacturing year. I'll see if I can get a really clear pic of the patent stamp on the tang also. The tang numbers had no relationship to year of production. Your 1400 ser.
NO.
Simply enjoy your rifle as it is.....GeorgeYea, makes it a tough decision.
The sporting rifles carried receiver and barrel serial numbers, but not the military models. If you could show a picture of the plaque someone might have some knowledge of the persons involved. On each of the barrel bands on the right hand side there is a small square stamped. I have no intention to sell it, but is it particularly valuable? EdI'm no expert but I find it hard to believe that a Rolling Block with a Silver Presentation Plaque was made in 1874 when it has a plaque is dated 1879. Also the butt plate should be numbered the same.
EdIll try amd post a pic tomorrow. We know of several low 3000 rifles with 1874 patent dates.
JackHughs If you are correct then the stock is not original to the serialized parts or the rifle was made special order from parts at the factory made in 1874.
Only recently however it was discovered that Uruguay also applied a local serial number to their military RB rifles on the right frame ahead of the forward breechblock pin as yours. Say if you would, could sent a photo of those "squares" adjacent to the barrel bands? Thought the Spanish Model is rather common, none unless they are total...total basket cases should be torn up and re-barreled etc.
Nov. It appears that many Rolling Blocks made in 1873 and up may well have spent considerable time either in storage at Remington or a hardware store etc.
It was made in a variety of calibers, both rimfire and centerfire, including the 12.17x42 mm rimfire, 12.17x44 mm rimfire and 12.17x44 mm rimmed centerfire Swedish and Norwegian cartridges,.43 Spanish,. When the stamp for the side patents came out Remington no longer used the 1874 stamp on the sporters.
Hello all -- I have a Rolling Block that my dad used to use as a wall-hangar ornament. The easiest was to identify a Number 5 action without removing and measuring the barrel shank, is to look for the receiver radial relief cuts on either side of front of the breechblock. Some of these rifles are creedmoor rifles that we know were used in the 1874 matches. That is Five ( 5 ) years earlier then the plaque.
For now I'm just happy I know more about it.
It was either at a gun show or an auction. Yep ...very true and so many older guns have gone this route and have simply vanished from the scene. I have not done a chamber cast. There is very little stamped on the rifle anywhere.
We may never know. octagon barrel standard with round barrels available late in the series, smooth bore barrel was introduced approx.
It affected both Europe and the USA.
There is no bayonet lug on this one. I can post up some pics of the barrel band(s) tonight, but I do believe they are screw-retained by a screw entering from the LHS of the barrel.
A generic inscription and without a last name almost impossible to track down.
The top of the U should point to the muzzle and is of course positioned on the right side of the barrel.
Rolling Block I believe that the numbers stamped into the upper and lower tangs represent "batch" numbers for frame production, and not serial numbers. If you would like a shooter, plenty of .45-70 RB reproductions are on the market;prices not bad as well.
Lower tangs were production marked from 1 to 10,000 and then the numbering sequence was repeated.
As I remember, it was a nice rifle. 1911, blue finish with case hardened frame, solid frame initially followed by takedown in 2 different types (lever release introduced approx.
The culprit the financial " Panic of 1873" which didn't end until 1879.
Would any other pictures be helpful?My pleasure, happy to be of any help. Thanks so much.Turns out that (a) the barrel bands are secured at the joint under the barrel where they "bend" together, and (b) the squares on the barrel bands are actually "U"s as close as I can tell.Thank you for the photos...I kind of thought there were actually "U's" on the bands, but no I still stick with my thoughts on this one....condition wise it still looks similar to those in the Uruguayan fort museum, of course the numbers are different.Thanks, and that's the most help and certainty that I could expect.
rimfire, 22 1/2 in.
The barrel, the tang and the forearm snabble all have the same serial number.
Occasionally one gets a little information as to a manufacturing year. I'll see if I can get a really clear pic of the patent stamp on the tang also. The tang numbers had no relationship to year of production. Your 1400 ser.
NO.
Simply enjoy your rifle as it is.....GeorgeYea, makes it a tough decision.
The sporting rifles carried receiver and barrel serial numbers, but not the military models. If you could show a picture of the plaque someone might have some knowledge of the persons involved. On each of the barrel bands on the right hand side there is a small square stamped. I have no intention to sell it, but is it particularly valuable? EdI'm no expert but I find it hard to believe that a Rolling Block with a Silver Presentation Plaque was made in 1874 when it has a plaque is dated 1879. Also the butt plate should be numbered the same.
EdIll try amd post a pic tomorrow. We know of several low 3000 rifles with 1874 patent dates.
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